LoL im seriously facepalming at those eldar fangirls....THATS A FUCKING DEATHWATCH MARINE.....i mean even a normal marine would 1 shot this guy....and this guy is a Pro xeno hunter even for super human standards...if he was an enemy....he would already be a corpse
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But in the pursuit of Dark Heretics who's numbers are beyond the lone Marines capabilities, perhaps a temporary ally who's interest are indifferent may be acceptable, no matter the race one can appreciate a fellow warrior.
Seems like there's a highly uncomfortable alliance of circunstances here I can feel the marine holding his bolter more firmly and the eldar keeping both eyes on him constanly But hey, we've got a patrol to do...
Right now, that Eldar is a friend. Why? Because in Brothers of the Snake ten thousand Dark Eldar fought a single squad of Iron Snake Astartes and were slaughtered to the last without the Astartes taking any casualties.
This is one Eldar against a Space Marine. He/She/It sure as hell isn't going to piss the Marine off.
Which is why an under-strength Invaders Chapter single-handedly wiped out an entire Eldar Craftworld then massacred the counter attack from a combined war host of several Craftworlds. Personally I think the Craftworlds deserved getting their asses kicked, since the whole reason the Invaders...invaded, was because that Craftworld attacked their homeworld and killed a bunch of their brothers and civilians.
You seem to be overlooking the difference between lore and tabletop. Fluff-wise, a single space marine to a single squad is often sent to turn the tide of entire wars. If a company is sent it's either to make up for a lack of guardsmen or because the situation has gone from bad to 4chan.
On oct.4 I made a reply to this absurd claim of yours. Today, having been reminded of the state of Space Marines in 40K fluff I decided to check things out for myself. I find it quite interesting, to be fair:
Craftworld Idharae (852.M41) - The Invaders' most notable engagement as a Chapter came in 852.M41 when they launched an all-out invasion of the EldarCraftworld Idharae. Despite suffering casualties that included the loss of the majority of the Chapter's Astartes, the Invaders proved successful and left the once-grand Craftworld a ruined Space Hulk with its surviving Eldar population forced to flee into open space, where they eventually found sanctuary aboard the Craftworld Alaitoc.
Battle of Ogrys (895.M41) - The Invaders' brutal destruction of the Craftworld Idharae came home to roost some 43 standard years later when the Eldar survivors of the Invaders original assault, now with the full backing of the Alaitoc Craftworld, launched their own assault upon Ogrys, the Invaders' homeworld. Still recovering their numbers from the original attack upon Idharae, the Invaders were incapable of properly defending their fortress-monastery from the vengeance-minded xenos. The Invaders were quickly defeated by the Eldar and were reduced in size to a mere 3 companies of surviving Astartes, as well as losing most of their battle honours and much of their Chapter wargear and vehicles to the destruction of their fortress-monastery. The surviving Space Marines of the Invaders were forced to become a Fleet-based Chapter, moving their operations to the remnants of their Chapter fleet that survived the massacre on Ogrys. Still well understrength despite the century that has passed since the loss of their Chapter's homeworld, the Invaders were last reported serving as support for the Novamarines operating on the doomed world of Skyfall.
In short, if you want to be an insufferable SM fan-boy to the point of lying about events, you will have to try to not twist facts around as hard as you have. The Invaders chapter attacked first and suffered great losses, achieving victory only because the Eldar were severely weakened in previous engagements with the Tyranids. YEARS LATER the forces of ONE SINGLE group of Eldar, the Alaitoc Craftworld, enacted revenge, and nearly broke the Invaders chapter completely, leaving their world a ruin as they had left the attacked Craftworld a drifting space hulk. There was no 'combined warhost' to retaliate and there was no Eldar attack on the Invader's homeworld prior to their attack on the Eldar.
The only part of your lies that I am glad for is that the state of SM's in 40K lore is not early as bleak as I had assumed. Ofc, the Invaders did manage to run away and avoid destruction, but that's a minor detail.
And personally, I would enjoy 40K infinitely much more if GW would just please stop over-hyping Space Marines to such an absurd degree. 1 (ONE FREAKING ONE) *under-strength* chapter of 1000 marines (who were, again, not to full strength) managed to not only find and BOARD an Eldar Craftworld of millions, but also kill everyone (IN THE ELDAR'S OWN HOMELAND) and destroy it. (!)
*HOW* can you possibly explain how they pull that off? Worse yet *several* other Craftworlds responded to this with a counter-attack and this COMBINED ATTACK was also defeated - again by the under-strength'ed Marine Chapter, and of course, without backup.
Yeah. Sure. This is simply put the worst offence I've heard of thus far in the GW-led "SM's can't be stopped and don't bother collecting any other army from 40K ever, they are all cannon-fodder, really" campaign they have been leading the last few years. While I keep wondering what they hope to achieve with this, when in the end people either only collect marines or stop playing 40K at all, the bigger question to me right now would be where you have this info from?
Where was this story written down or where is the source of this info? I would really like to see/read for myself how this scenario can even be excused.
@ Artist - apologies for the slight rant, this is a pet-peeve of mine. Your art is frankly awesome, and I have no critiques to offer as I can find nothing wrong with it. Keep up the awesome work <3
i m not sure but i feel you messing some GW barely aproved autors of wh40k with seriously taked wh40k autors and writters...ye there are some shity bookss and stories with total op marines....but when you stick to seriouse things like dan abnett or king...or even codexes... they are not so immortal...
It's very weird. The numbers simply doesn't match. In Ciaphas Cain novel, a group of 5 Khorne Bezerkers killed 1000 cultists, suffering the loss of 3. There is FUCKING NO WAY a group of 100 SPACE MARINE can slaughter 1.000.000 Orks like we all know. And there is also no such thing as 100 Chaos Space Marines can conquer an entire world with many millions PDF.
A world of 5 billions should have at least 100 millions PDF, yet there are only thousands when it is invaded. Where are the FUCKING OTHERS? Authors can't be bothered to add them, of course.
yes exactly...100 marines cant coquer the planet....artilery, nuclear missels airforces tank divisions it will simply kill them...its impossible ye they can be deployed somewhere and make a big mess there no doubt, but conquer whole world....bullshit
"If fate bring a common enemy and in times we are in both dire need then friend I will be. If you dare to cross into our unforeseen boundaries, or set to obstruct the path which is laid out before us by our wise seers knowingly or unintentionally, then foe I will be. Yet still the best answer to offer a Mon Kieg who would be foolish enough to ask such a question shall be neither."
"Never ask an Elder a question for he will not give you one answer but three, each of them horrifying to know."
No they didn't. Before the fall they just used exactly what the Old Ones had left for them and nothing else. They never advanced, they never questioned or investigated. They didn't do anything at all until DAoT humanity showed up and curbstomped the hell out of them. Heck, the Eldar think they own the galaxy when in reality they only controlled that tiny patch of space called the Eye of Terror and a few scattered terraformed worlds elsewhere. They're arrogant without earning the right to be, they think they own everything without what they claim having ever been theirs or anywhere near their territory in the first place, and they are too proud/stupid to warn of coming problems like Tyranid invasions and awakening Necron Tomb Worlds until it, by all rights, should be too late but the Imperium manages to crush it all.
Let me put this in perspective. The Eldar during their Golden Age would have been considered ridiculously primitive both technologically and magically compared to the Old Ones. Which makes sense seeing as the Old Ones made the Eldar and gave them all of their technology and magic as-is, hence the reason the Eldar have not rebuilt their knowledge from before the Fall. They never had any knowledge to rebuild in the first place. Anyway, the Old Ones were wiped out by the Enslavers. The Enslavers, canonically, have been launching periodic invasions of the Imperium, who proceeds to crush them.
Pretty sure the Eldar should figure out how to make fire without tech or magic before they start acting all high and mighty. Because, yes, they never learned that since everything was given to them. Kinda like the Tau, thanks to Eldar dickery.
*sigh* Another Ward-lover making a mockery of Space Marine fans everywhere. Lovely.
A Space Marine would be ashamed of you for so grossly underestimating an opponent.
Space Marines are not invincible. Not even close. Need I remind you that Necrons can quite easily rape entire Companies of Space Marines? Or that Orks nearly wiped out the Crimson Fists on Rynn's World? How about the Drop Site Massacre, where three LEGIONS were nearly decimated? Or that the Blood Ravens lost HALF OF THEIR CHAPTER during the Kronus Campaign?
I think you have Space Marines mixed up with Primarchs.
All I see here is a collection of ignorance from a SM fan-boy who really don't know what he/she speak of. Unless you have a quotable source you are prepared to show to me pretty much everything you just shared here is completely wrong.
Originally my post here included several pointers you got horribly wrong, but having read your comments going below it's completely clear that my suspicion of blind SM fan-boyism is completely on the money. At this point it's like that anything I say will be completely wasted on you, and as such I will not waste my time beyond hoping for a source-dump from you regarding the source of your claims.